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Last edited on 2012-03-23 00:43:50 by scsijon
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====""QtPuppy"" (pronounced "Cute Puppy") and ""Mage""====
===== **This project is NO longer on HOLD**=====
While the idea of using T2 as the base (it worked ok for warzalpha080), it has become quite clear that it's not a suitable base for a Qt Development system! However, i've found something suitable in Mageia.
""QtPuppy"" is designed to be a Developers Puppy, not a General users Puppy Desktop, therefore things like menus and the content will be seriously changed around! It will be closer to the Standard and most areas wil have Three-level Menus.
The first Alpha Releases will be called magexxx and will come out after Mageia2 is released in Mid-April.
([[http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy_qt.html This will still be the download page]])
Threads covering both Mage and QtPuppy can be found at [[http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=30 Puppy Linux Help]] and [[http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72565 murga-linux]], both are monitored and responded too.
===""Vision for QtPuppy""===
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of Mageia 2 plus [[Qt Qt4-4.8.0]].
The Development Versions will be coded mage2.0.x.x, while Release Versions will start at mage2.1.2! In all cases, only those with even number endings can be considered to be Stable Versions for use!
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop (razorqt/qlwm) or by Puppy's [[JWM]].
It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by [[Qt Qt4]] equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to ""QtPuppy"", or developed from the ground up.
QtPuppy will have some standard Printer drivers already installed, such as the hp drivers.
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for all of 2012 to meet this concept!
Deletions:
====""QtPuppy"" (pronounced "Cute Puppy")====
===== **THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD FOR THREE MONTHS**=====
While the idea of using WARY and T2 as the base (and it worked ok for the warzalpha080) it has become quite
clear that it's not a suitable base for a Qt Development system! It will re-appear after I've found something
more suitable. The puppy threads will be updated as required in the interim!
After playing with all the currently available puppy sources over the last year, I have decided for a number
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QtPuppy"" will be a wary / T2 based Version of Puppy.
It is designed to be a Developers Puppy, not a General users Puppy, therefore some things like menus will be
changed around!
The first Public Alpha Release ++will come out after Wary 5.2.2++ is out ([[http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy_qt.html download page]])
.
Threads for QtPuppy can be found at [[http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=30 Puppy Linux Help]] and [[http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72565 murga-linux]], both are monitored and responded too.
===""Vision for QtPuppy Version1""===
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of [[Wary wary5.2.2]] plus [[Qt Qt4-4.7.4]].
The Development Versions will be coded warz522xx, while Release Versions will become warq522.x.x! In all cases, only those with even number endings can be considered to be Stable Versions for use!
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's [[JWM]]. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by [[Qt Qt4]] equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to ""QtPuppy"", or developed from the ground up.
QtPuppy will have some standard Printer drivers already installed.
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 to try to meet this concept!
===**""Vision for QtPuppy Version2""**===
Will split into two versions!
__warq__
A User Workstation Version, primarily containing User Applications and the User Components of a small number
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Linux / Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the Screen so Windows users can feel some comfort (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style applications that are Qt4 based.
Group Screen icons and the initial desktop and menus will remind you of windows95 by using a Qt based desktop;
and
__wars__
A LHMP Server Version with [[Qt Qt4]] plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.


Revision [20659]

Edited on 2012-02-17 06:17:38 by darkcity [add download page]
Additions:
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's [[JWM]]. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by [[Qt Qt4]] equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to ""QtPuppy"", or developed from the ground up.
Deletions:
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's [[JWM]]. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to ""QtPuppy"", or developed from the ground up.


Revision [20658]

Edited on 2012-02-17 06:16:49 by darkcity [add alpha download]
Additions:
The first Public Alpha Release ++will come out after Wary 5.2.2++ is out ([[http://www.lamiaworks.com.au/puppy_qt.html download page]])
.
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of [[Wary wary5.2.2]] plus [[Qt Qt4-4.7.4]].
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's [[JWM]]. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to ""QtPuppy"", or developed from the ground up.
A LHMP Server Version with [[Qt Qt4]] plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.
Deletions:
The first Public Alpha Release ++will come out after Wary 5.2.2++ is out.
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary5.2.2 plus Qt4-4.7.4.
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's JWM. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to Qtpuppy, or developed from the ground up.
A LHMP Server Version with Qt4 plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.


Revision [20654]

Edited on 2012-02-17 05:59:31 by darkcity [format]
Additions:
===**""Vision for QtPuppy Version2""**===
Deletions:
===**Vision for QtPuppy Version2**===


Revision [20330]

Edited on 2012-01-25 20:03:52 by scsijon [hold note]
Additions:
===== **THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD FOR THREE MONTHS**=====
While the idea of using WARY and T2 as the base (and it worked ok for the warzalpha080) it has become quite
clear that it's not a suitable base for a Qt Development system! It will re-appear after I've found something
more suitable. The puppy threads will be updated as required in the interim!


Revision [19809]

Edited on 2011-12-04 05:32:25 by darkcity [hold note]
Additions:
====""QtPuppy"" (pronounced "Cute Puppy")====
Deletions:
====QtPuppy (pronounced ""Cute Puppy"")====


Revision [19808]

Edited on 2011-12-04 05:32:02 by darkcity [hold note]
Additions:
===""Vision for QtPuppy Version1""===
Deletions:
===Vision for QtPuppy Version1===


Revision [19806]

Edited on 2011-12-03 20:42:35 by scsijon [hold note]
Additions:
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 to try to meet this concept!
Deletions:
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 to match this concept!


Revision [19805]

Edited on 2011-12-03 20:41:19 by scsijon [hold note]
Deletions:
Things should still work as Puppy users expect them to, but a windows user should also be able to use it without too much hastle.


Revision [19804]

Edited on 2011-12-03 20:39:58 by scsijon [hold note]
Additions:
====QtPuppy (pronounced ""Cute Puppy"")====
It is designed to be a Developers Puppy, not a General users Puppy, therefore some things like menus will be
changed around!
The first Public Alpha Release ++will come out after Wary 5.2.2++ is out.
Threads for QtPuppy can be found at [[http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=30 Puppy Linux Help]] and [[http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72565 murga-linux]], both are monitored and responded too.
===Vision for QtPuppy Version1===
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary5.2.2 plus Qt4-4.7.4.
The Development Versions will be coded warz522xx, while Release Versions will become warq522.x.x! In all cases, only those with even number endings can be considered to be Stable Versions for use!
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available either via a Qt Window-manager/Desktop or by Puppy's JWM. It will not have a number of the general libraries and applications you are use to in Puppy, as the applications will be replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are located, tested for stability and added to Qtpuppy, or developed from the ground up.
It will also have by default the Qt Design Package "Qt Creator" integrated into it so you can have a go at building your own ideas into an application. Qt Creator can also multi-Platform, so may be of use when we expand into other systems in the future.
Others like the popular openoffice.sts, etc. should be useable and loadable via bootmanager as long as the sts's are internally complete.
Most of the multiple programs that do the same thing __will__ be missing. This is a common complaint now from those windows users thinking of trying a version of linux out now.
Things should still work as Puppy users expect them to, but a windows user should also be able to use it without too much hastle.
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 to match this concept!
===**Vision for QtPuppy Version2**===
Will split into two versions!
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Linux / Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the Screen so Windows users can feel some comfort (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style applications that are Qt4 based.
A LHMP Server Version with Qt4 plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.
Deletions:
Qt Puppy (pronounced ""Cute Puppy"")
Development Versions will be coded warz 52.x.x and will come from Barry's Wary 5.1.4.1 or 5.2 when it's
ready. The warz51 alphas will not be released (Sorry, i'm using it to learn how-to do this and bugfix, and it
Will be very buggy). The first Public Alpha Release will come out after Wary 5.2 is out.
Beta and Final Releases will be coded warq for the User Workstation Version and wars for the Server Version.
**Vision for QtPuppy**
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary 52 plus Qt4!
It is planned to be both Linux User and Windows User friendly!
There are plans for two versions to be designed, built and released.
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Linux / Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the screen
so Windows users can feel some comfort (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style
applications that are Qt4 based.
A LHMP Server Version with Qt4 plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style
Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available via jwm, but
it will not have some of the general libraries and applications you are use to as the applications will be
replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are found and developed.
It will also have by default the Qt Design Package Qt Creator integrated into it so you can have a go at
building your own ideas into an application.
Others like the popular openoffice.sts, etc. should be useable and loadable via bootmanager as long as the
sts's are internally complete.
Most of the multiple programs that do the same thing __will__ be missing. This is a common complaint now from
those windows users thinking of trying a version of linux out now.
Things should still work as Puppy users expect them to, but a windows user should also be able to use it
without too much hastle.
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 for this concept!


Revision [18776]

Edited on 2011-10-11 22:13:17 by scsijon [hold note]
Additions:
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QtPuppy"" will be a wary / T2 based Version of Puppy.
Deletions:
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QutePuppy"" will be a wary / T2 based Version of Puppy.


Revision [18775]

Edited on 2011-10-11 22:12:30 by scsijon [hold note]
Additions:
{{image class="left" url="http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2484/puppyrunt.png" title="Qt Puppy logo" alt="QtPuppy logo"}}
Qt Puppy (pronounced ""Cute Puppy"")
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QutePuppy"" will be a wary / T2 based Version of Puppy.
ready. The warz51 alphas will not be released (Sorry, i'm using it to learn how-to do this and bugfix, and it
Will be very buggy). The first Public Alpha Release will come out after Wary 5.2 is out.
**Vision for QtPuppy**
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary 52 plus Qt4!
__warq__
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Linux / Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the screen
so Windows users can feel some comfort (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style
applications that are Qt4 based.
Group Screen icons and the initial desktop and menus will remind you of windows95 by using a Qt based desktop;
__wars__
In all cases it is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available via jwm, but
it will not have some of the general libraries and applications you are use to as the applications will be
replaced by Qt4 equivalents as they are found and developed.
It will also have by default the Qt Design Package Qt Creator integrated into it so you can have a go at
building your own ideas into an application.
QtPuppy is planned to be modem, wifi, network and Satellite compatable.
QtPuppy will have some standard Printer drivers already installed.
Deletions:
{{image class="left" url="http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2484/puppyrunt.png" title="Qt Puppy logo" alt="Qt Puppy logo"}}
Qt Puppy (pronounced ""QutePuppy"")
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QutePuppy"" will be a T2 based Version of Puppy.
ready. The warz51 alphas will not be released (Sorry, i'm using it to learn how-to do this, and it Will be
very buggy). The first Public Alpha Release will come out after Wary 5.2 is out.
**Vision for QutePuppy**
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary 52 plus Qt4.
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the screen for
windows users (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style applications that are Qt4 based.
Group Screen icons and the initial desktop and menus will remind you of windows95;
It is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available via jwm, but it will not
have some of the general libraries and applications you are use to as the applications will be replaced by Qt4
equivalents as they are found and developed.
QutePuppy is planned to be modem, wifi, network and Satellite compatable.
QutePuppy will have some standard Printer drivers already installed.


Revision [17861]

Edited on 2011-09-05 13:02:34 by darkcity [use html tag to remove false wiki link]
Additions:
Qt Puppy (pronounced ""QutePuppy"")
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that ""QutePuppy"" will be a T2 based Version of Puppy.
Deletions:
Qt Puppy (pronounced QutePuppy)
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that QutePuppy will be a T2 based Version of Puppy.


Revision [17860]

Edited on 2011-09-05 13:01:25 by darkcity [breadcrumb]
Additions:
[[Homepage]] > [[PuppyVersionIndex Puppy Version]]


Revision [17843]

Edited on 2011-09-05 03:59:07 by scsijon [breadcrumb]
Additions:
Applications to be used, but with no user-end components installed.
Deletions:
Applications to be used, but with no user-end Applications installed.


Revision [17842]

Edited on 2011-09-05 03:56:49 by scsijon [breadcrumb]
Additions:
{{image class="left" url="http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2484/puppyrunt.png" title="Qt Puppy logo" alt="Qt Puppy logo"}}
Qt Puppy (pronounced QutePuppy)
After playing with all the currently available puppy sources over the last year, I have decided for a number
of reasons that for ease of build and "best-fit" that QutePuppy will be a T2 based Version of Puppy.
Development Versions will be coded warz 52.x.x and will come from Barry's Wary 5.1.4.1 or 5.2 when it's
ready. The warz51 alphas will not be released (Sorry, i'm using it to learn how-to do this, and it Will be
very buggy). The first Public Alpha Release will come out after Wary 5.2 is out.
Beta and Final Releases will be coded warq for the User Workstation Version and wars for the Server Version.
**Vision for QutePuppy**
It will be designed to be based on a basic-bones version of wary 52 plus Qt4.
It is planned to be both Linux User and Windows User friendly!
There are plans for two versions to be designed, built and released.
A User Workstation Version, primarily containing User Applications and the User Components of a small number
of Client/Server Applications. There will be a number of Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the screen for
windows users (examples are Firefox and Eudora), as well as many linux style applications that are Qt4 based.
Group Screen icons and the initial desktop and menus will remind you of windows95;
and
A LHMP Server Version with Qt4 plus addatives to allow client/server Applications, and maybe even Cloud style
Applications to be used, but with no user-end Applications installed.
It is planned to have something like the traditional Puppy screen layout available via jwm, but it will not
have some of the general libraries and applications you are use to as the applications will be replaced by Qt4
equivalents as they are found and developed.
Others like the popular openoffice.sts, etc. should be useable and loadable via bootmanager as long as the
sts's are internally complete.
Most of the multiple programs that do the same thing __will__ be missing. This is a common complaint now from
QutePuppy is planned to be modem, wifi, network and Satellite compatable.
QutePuppy will have some standard Printer drivers already installed.
I have allocated a fair proportion of my time for the rest of 2011 and all of 2012 for this concept!
Deletions:
{{image class="left" url="http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2484/puppyrunt.png" title="Puppy Runt logo" alt="Puppy Runt logo"}}
Under development, this page Will change as I put it all together.
Development Version 0.0.xx will come from choicepup's Puppy 4.3.1 bare-bones, but not
released. (Sorry, i'm using it to learn how-to do this, and it Will be very buggy).
First Alpha Release (0.1.01 may now come from a pre-Puppy 5.1 (Lupi 207 or so, the ?guys
have, I think, offered to teach me to build one).
Still planning on a Christmas 2010 alpha release as i'm not doing rocket-science, just
"doing it a different way"!
PuppyRunt releases will come either from my Puppy5.1 + Basic-bones version or when
Puppy 6 is on the go.
**this project is on hold until 2011 while I work on a couple of packages for puppy and a new website**
**Vision for PuppyRunt**
PuppyRunt will be designed to consist of two .sts files to attach to a basic-bones version of puppy via
bootmanager. Others like the popular openoffice.sts, etc. of a compatable puppy version should be useable.
It will have traditional Puppy screen layout but only some of the traditional Puppy applications, (updated
to the latest working versions, not necessarily the latest and greatest) built into a "linapps.sts".
Most of the multiple programs that do the same thing will be missing. This is a common complaint now from
There will be a number of Windows Compatable Apps/Programs on the screen for windows users,
(examples are Firefox and Eudora) including Group Screen icons and Menus built into a "winapps.sts".
PuppyRunt may become vesa only, so hopefully will work on anything it's "thrown into".
PuppyRunt should be modem, wifi, network and Satellite compatable.
PuppyRunt will have some standard Printer drivers already installed.
That should be a big enough vision for a first real project.
All Comments welcome!


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